Comments on: About Hacks and Licenses

By: Geekaholic: Moving away from Creative Commons

Geekaholic: Moving away from Creative Commons — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:22:36 +0000

[…] Commons license. I had stuck by my non-commercial, no-derivative license for almost two years now, defending and justifying it to heavy scrutiny and arguments. While I still stand firm on those grounds, a CC license […]

By: Aditya

Aditya — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:39:00 +0000

“I'd smack a title attribute onto the up link”

Done! :)

I know, the ND clause, without the proper background information makes things a little dicey. Which is why I made it a point to make this post, and now will add a link to it with the license disclaimer at the bottom.

And the commenting template. Hehe! There are a few who find it confusing, but I like it! Adds something different :) So thanks!⌘

By: Johan Sundström

Johan Sundström — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:25:00 +0000

Insta-reaction to the ND clause is a "Well, that makes this blog worthless to me. Too bad.". (Glad you cleared that up, though, and your comment to Stephen is especially good.)

I believe many hackers with me find people placing legal tabs on their creativity best kept at (wouldn't-poke-on-that-with-a-)stick's length distance.

Love your comments sub-template; especially the permalink bit is the most stylish I've seen. I'd smack a title attribute onto the up link, though, making it somewhat less puzzling that it doesn't have any particular relation to the comment itself. (One on the author link won't hurt either, but those are at least strikingly apparrent.)⌘

By: Aditya

Aditya — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:04:00 +0000

Hehe! I don't remember you building off my code in the past Steve. And even if you have, have I ever said anything to you about the license?

No, because you've always made it a point to attribute my part in your hacks, which is basically the point a license. Attribution is pretty much the key here.

And I've already explained the 'ND' part, so I won't do it again.

I knew this post would stir up something, because licensing has always been a touchy thing (we never know where the boundaries are), but I don't mean to say that I don't want people using my work. That'd be just stupid now, wouldn't it? :)⌘

By: Singpolyma

Singpolyma — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:58:00 +0000

Not a horrible idea, but annoying for those of us who have built off your code in the past... I'll try to remember to ask permission in the future! ;) I like Johan's ideas really, and mostly use them in practise. I just keep byncsa on there in case someone really abuses it :)⌘

By: Leon

Leon — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 01:28:00 +0000

This is a very good post Aditya. Most of my blogs are by-nc-nd. I am writing up an explaination of my cc this week with emaphasis on the nd and what it means in my blog directory.⌘

By: Aditya

Aditya — Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:19:00 +0000

Alteration and modification for personal use is allowed. If a person alters the code to derive a new hack, we'll find out whenever it is released (I always go through a hacks code, to see how it's been done, if I don't get it at first). I would then ask them nicely, and if they didn't comply, use my license and the rights it gives me the way I see fit.⌘

I have already said I will not sue them (although CC allows this trans-country). But I'm sure it'll be considered rude and wrong by the community if the person releases a derived hack, and doesn't attribute it to the original work. It's then up to the community to treat it as wrong or right.⌘

CC is not for the idea, but for the code. You cannot license an idea, just the way it's been executed. I will admit to taking quite a few ideas (you can see them in a lot of places on this blog), but I haven't taken the code. I've executed the idea in my way, which shouldn't bother someone else.⌘

A lot of it depends on the conscience of the person who takes someone else's CC'ed code. Like I said, if it's there, you can take it. It's 'how' you take it that makes the difference, and I'm sure someone who disrespects someone elses effort by breaking his terms, will not be held in high regard by the community!⌘

I have said I will never deny permission to use my code. So if someone wants to use it, please let me know, and I'll gladly link to it if it improves or builds upon my work :)⌘

By: Efendi

Efendi — Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:03:00 +0000

say, this CC thing, supposedly someone, use it, and altered/modified it, but then he/she did not tell you, how do you handle this ?⌘

if he/she refuse to remove the modified code, did he/she get sued ? even if they are in a different country ? how is the law-strength to this situation ?⌘

and if someone used the idea, not the code, does it considered as a violation to your CC ?⌘

By: Aditya

Aditya — Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:58:00 +0000

Yes. It's a replace-with code. Remove all the original content, and follow the new instructions :)⌘

By: cyberbuff

cyberbuff — Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:54:00 +0000

well, it dint work for me :( . do I have to remove the other code you gave at the DLTP post?⌘